Machida successfully defended his title
UFC 104 Results:
- Stefan Struve def. Chase Gormley by Submission (triangle choke) at 4:04 of round 1.
- Kyle Kingsbury def. Razak Al-Hassan by Split Decision (29-28, 29-28, 28-29)
- Jorge Rivera def. Rob Kimmons by TKO at 1:53 of round 3
- Chael Sonnen def. Yushin Okami by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
- Pat Berry def. Antoni Hardonk by TKO at 2:30 of round 2
- Ryan Bader def. Eric Schafer by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-26)
- Anthony Johnson def. Yoshiyuki Yoshida by TKO at 0:41 of round 1
- Joe Stevenson def. Spencer Fisher by Submission (elbows) at 4:03 of round 2
- Gleison Tibau def. Josh Neer by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
- Cain Velasquez def. Ben Rothwell by TKO at 0:58 of round 2
- Lyoto Machida def. Mauricio Rua by Unanimous Decision (48-47, 48-47, 48-47)
Well this one could of went either way,,,loyoto got lucky in my opinion
but like they say to win the belt you have to decisively beat the champion and shogun didn’t do that .
if I were a judge it would of been a draw
A REMATCH IS IN THE CARDS
i thought shogun won,i was shocked when buffer said machida.rumble was real good tonight,love watching him fight.you guys gave me stick over stefan struve when i said he has a bright future in the ufc a while back,he was 0-1 in the ufc at thattime but i seen him fight before his ufc days and i know what he has.hardonk vs barry was a joy.
The refs and judges were horrible, Rua clearly won the fight and the Rothwell fight was stopped too early.
I call bullshit. Machidass didn’t even win a round! Shogun took it to him. You can argue maybe one round for machida, but how can you give him a unanimous? I thought the ufc didn’t want to be like boxing? That sure as shit was a straight up boxing move! Bullshit! Shoguns the champ in my eyes! Rothwell was gonna lose either way, but it shoulda been called while he was on the ground not while in the process of standing up. It just looked bad for the sport. The rest of the card was great, too bad those two fights stained what should have been a great card. Damn, disappointed doesn’t even beginnto describe it.
Agree with everything you say Cisco. I called the fight 49-46 Shogun, as I thought the 3rd round was 10-10. Maybe Machida won that round, but that’s it. Rogan knew Shogun won the fight, but he was too much of a pussy to question the judges decision, which is a bad sign. Shogun won the fight, and convincingly. He literally kicked the shit out of Machida. He won the title like I always knew he could and they took it all away from him. Dana White said Shogun won too. Now there’s gonna be an immediate rematch, but that’s bullshit, they should have gotten it right the first time, Machida Era my ass. This did smack of a boxing-style debacle, and that is really bad. Honestly I wass reminded of Pauly Malignaggi-Juan Diaz. I mean, as soon as I saw Cecil Peoples’ name up there I knew it wasn’t going to be pretty, but I at least hoped the other two would get it right. Cisco I’m with you, I’m not disappointed, I’m outraged. However, everyone knows Shogun whooped that ass and is the best 205er in the world.
Also, yes it was a terrible stoppage in the Velasquez-Rothwell fight, he was STANDING UP for fuck’s sake. Impressed with Anthony Johnson, akthough I knew that would happen, very impressed with Pat Barry, Cain Velasquez was great, it’s not his fault Mazzagatti fucked up yet again. Stevenson did well, but I knew he’d win that.
i have it the same as you cisco,maybe the second round i gave machida and that is it.rothwell fight was a good stoppage.it goes on the ref’s and that is the fun thing about decisions,all ref’s see it different.rothwell looked out on his feet when valasquez was hitting him against the cage so the ref stepped in,as he stepped in thats when he stood up and pushed valasquez away.didnt the same ref steve mazzigathi get roasted for not stopping the sell vs brown fight when sell was out on his feet like rothwell,he cant win either way.i think he gave him enough time in the first after a beating on the ground.there is only so many times the ref can give a fighter to fight back.another few more heavy blow could have give rothwell a brain injury if he aint got one already.
Whoa I fucked up haha. I had the fight 50-46 Shogun, haha I don’t know why I wrote it like that.
Daley, I understand where you’re coming from with the argument about Mazzagatti, but I stand by what I said, it was a bad stoppage. I’ve never given Steve shit before, except for Lesnar-Mir I.
no but dana was on his case about bad stoppages before.dan mergliotta is a bad ref.im not a mazzigahti fan or anything i just think he gave rothwell time in the first round and start of the second it wasnt a 2 sided fight but a very 1 sided affair.if that was any other fighter i think they may have tapped or didnt get back up.rothwell has heart and im a big fan of his now after last night the way he got hit very hard and was coming back.anyway i can get lost with my point but it is that the ref didnt stop it just off those shot’s,it was all the shots of the fight he took and mazzigathi took a mental note of all the shots he had taken and not give back over the fight.anyway i think the whole world agree that shogun won,im hearing bullshit judging here,you think the athletics commision are fixing because that was a poor decision.
Daley, well said concerning Ben Rothwell. He did take a lot of bad punishment and there was no need for that fight to continue. Anyway, yeah the CSAC has blown it once again. Haha two months ago, we were talking about the corruption involved with the Armando Garcia-Nick Diaz marijuana thing. Now they’re giving douchebags like Cecil Peoples and Nelson Hamilton jobs like this. This is why the UFC hasn’t been to California in so long, and hopefully won’t be going back anytime soon.
I agree that the mazzagatti should have stopped that fight but only a few seconds earlier or possibly the next time he got gnp’ed. It just looked bad to stop it as he stood or was in the process. I’m not the biggest mazzagatti fan since lesnar/ Mir 1 also, I think he wanted Mir to break lesnars leg. He’s a douche.
It sucks that this happens in Cali, as it is we hardly get any ufc events down here and then this. It’s no wonder the ufc stays away. There should be a penalty against bad judgements and the judges held accountable. It should be over seen by other judges, refs, & other industry profesionals. That way bs like that doesn’t happen as often.
I’ve watched the Machida/Rua fight four times now. My opinion is that yes, Rua was more aggressive. He fought a great, strategic fight, and his tactics were well planned and executed. Rua controlled his tendecies to over-commit, and gave Machida the toughest, most closely contested battle of his career.
Each time I watched the fight, what I saw more clearly was how many of Rua’s shots were blocked, how many attacks Machida side stepped, and that on two occasions, first in round one and again in round three, Machida put together the only effective combinations that had a real opportunity to end the fight. My opinion, that’s how I saw it.
Personally, I think the fairest decision would have been a draw, where Machida maintained his championship. The end result, a rematch, is exactly what should happen, as two incredibly evenly matched warriors fought five razor close rounds, and neither one “dominated” the other, neither one clearly and unambiguously demonstrated undeniable superiority.
Shogun threw more attacks, but many of his kicks missed or were blocked. Shogun moved forward more of the time, but moving forward is not a scoring technique. Yes, Shogun hit Machida’s head, and more power to him for scoring on the least hit fighter in the history of the UFC, but I saw Machida hit Shogun’s head more times, if less obviously. There were many sharp short fast counter right jabs that Machida scored as he was moving away, not as spectacular, but scoring blows none the less.
My honest reaction when I heard Joe Rogan asking if we were watching Machida lose his first round in the UFC in the first round was “What fight are you watching?”.
Rematch is definitely in order. I thought this was a great fight, and the next one will be as well. One man’s opinion…
Just watched the Shogun and Machida fight AGAIN, what a fucking bullshit call, I had Shogun winning 1,2,4 and 5. And Machida only just scraped the 3rd. We all know that leaving it in the judges hands is risky,but Stevie fucking Wonder saw Shogun walked that fight!!!!!
As for Velasquez and Rothwell, I think the stoppage was deserving,he was taking unnecessary punishment!!!
Liked the look of Joe Daddy aswell,Fisher was blasted!!!
Everybody keeps talking about the flurry Machida threw in round three. If you watch the replay, Machida clearly MISSED WITH EVERY PUNCH. Meanwhile Shogun blasted him with three counterpunches that all landed flush but no one says anything about that. Furthermore, I had Shogun winning every other round, I called round 3 a draw when I first saw it, but when they played the replay on the PPV I almost gave it to Shogun.
I say look at the damage both fighters sustained, it says a lot. Both had bruised mid sections an legs, but machidass looked far worse. On top of that his lips were busted up, not much, but shogun walked away far less battered. Reminiscent of Hamill/Bisping, bs.
Hell yeah Cisco. Anybody who thinks Machida didn’t take that much damage, hell look at fightmetric.com’s assessment of the fight. Shogun whipped Machida’s ass. Fightmetric scored the fight for Shogun by like 34 points!!!
It was an embarrassment for the commission to be brutally honest. They need to have a look into how these judges are graded, because its not just a fighters record that takes a hit, its his confidence,heart etc. Hell,if I was Shogun and I’d have just been butt fucked like that by the judges I’d be asking myself whether it’s all worth it!?